Buescher Elkhart Alto Saxophone Serial Numbers
I just aquired a small pile of altos, mostly to use for parts, all Buescher stencils, two of which are Elkharts with a cartoonish engraving of an Elk on the bell with 'Made by Buescher' enscribed beneath. Has anybody had experience with these? When were they made? Are they downgraded Buescher models? Good players?
Buescher True Tone Low Pitche Silver plated alto 1926 Cg conn ltd buescher made in elkhart, In serial # 165422 low pitch true tone sax 1925 Buescher True Tone Bass saxophone for sale. What is a Buescher True Tone Saxophone Serial number 220836 worth? I have a buescher elkhart ind. 174497 serial. Wichita Band Instrument Co., Inc., E.M. Shorts Guitar Shop, and The Wichita Violin Shop.
Here's the lowdown: Bell keys are on the left. Front F is present. Horrible lacquer on both. Perfectly rectangular G# key with no roller. No G# trill key.
From looking at pictures, they seem to have the body of a late 1930's Aristocrat but the low B/Bb guard is slightly different, attaching to the body at only one point instead of two. I'm considering swapping parts to get one working to see how it plays, but I thought I'd see if anyone had experience with these first.
Buescher acquired the Elhart Band Instrument Company (similar to Conn's purchase of Pan American and Martin's of Indiana) and retained the name (with the 'Built by Buescher' tag) for its second line of horns -- student or intermediate quality depending on individual experience. Earlier horns were either Buescher or Martin stencils. The 'Built by Bueschers' I've seen have only been altos and tenors, either 20A/30A or the later 21A/31A altos/tenors that look to have been made in the 40s and 50s. The are clearly Aristocrat horns with somewhat thinner metal and lacking ribbon guards (but note the similarity to the New Aristocrat/very early Aristocrat), amber rollers, Norton springs, and snaps. That said, I will dissent, in part, from Sigmund451's harsh judgment.
I found the 20A I played to have the characteristic feel of a Buescher (relatively light, fast key action) and typical clear bottom end. The tone was a bit brighter.
However, I find the late pre-Selmer buyout horns not even as much to my liking despite the presence of snaps and Nortons! The Elkharts sell on eBay for a pittance and, I believe, make excellent student and backup horns. I believe I did see a thread on the old forum where a tech had reported that Buescher produced a bad batch of Elkharts -- incurable intonation problems -- that pretty much ended the line. However, I have not seen that confirmed elsewhere.
Stencilman, since you have all your kids playing Martins, perhaps you can find some other deserving student players who might be pleased with your Elkharts! Thanks guys for the input.
The brass on these horns does seem thin. The reason I don't just put them together and give them to students is that they are literally in a pile: keys, rods, bells, bodies, necks, broken off posts, etc. Lots of pieces are missing and I could probably only get two full horns out of the whole lot. It would be a lot lot of work. Lots of soldering which is a skill I am not proficient.
I've already started stealing parts off these horns to fix others but I guess I could get one of my boys to help put these together. It might be fun for a kid to do some repair work, even if its just grunt work. 40 Carati Dvdrip Ita Download more.
I also have a couple of F.E. Olds Ambassadors (not 'Parisian') that are almost identical to the Elkharts except for the key guards. The rest of the body and keys are identical. Its amazing that since I chose the name 'Stencilman' on this forum, I have become a stencil magnet. On several occasions I've had people from church and from work call me and say 'I've had this old off-brand sax in my closet collecting dust, do you want it?'
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